tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post5442915795748362387..comments2023-07-09T04:29:29.893-04:00Comments on The Radikal: The Progs On TrialChristian Duquehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06442591895926766002noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-15163081366020936502009-01-18T12:07:00.000-05:002009-01-18T12:07:00.000-05:00http://www.progressuf.com/ WelcomePosted Sat, 01/1...http://www.progressuf.com/ <BR/><BR/>Welcome<BR/>Posted Sat, 01/17/2009 - 23:45 by admin<BR/><BR/>The Progress Party welcomes you to a new era of Student Government.<BR/><BR/>Our party and its members are dedicated to the improvement of student life, and we are growing stronger with every new voice we bring to the Student Government political arena. By adding your opinions, concerns, and creative talents, this party will make enormous impact for you and your fellow peers at the University of Florida.<BR/><BR/>Paid Pol. Ad. Mitchell TannenbaumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-31783481773522240982009-01-17T12:16:00.000-05:002009-01-17T12:16:00.000-05:00He might be angry, but he's pretty much correct, a...He might be angry, but he's pretty much correct, aside from that stupid anti-Semitism remark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-51398426816684776962009-01-16T10:42:00.000-05:002009-01-16T10:42:00.000-05:005:32 just opened up the heart and LET THE HATE OUT...5:32 just opened up the heart and LET THE HATE OUT.<BR/><BR/>What a disturbingly angry person - and paranoid to boot. It might be telling that they are intent on blaming people who aren't within hundreds of miles of UF for problems on the UF campus. Duque would be flattered to actually have power like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-986798947888951052009-01-16T02:45:00.000-05:002009-01-16T02:45:00.000-05:005:32 is clearly Aimee Collins-Mandeville.5:32 is clearly Aimee Collins-Mandeville.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-28844835280496127882009-01-15T17:32:00.000-05:002009-01-15T17:32:00.000-05:00Christian:JCB and Allende's influences don't live ...Christian:<BR/><BR/>JCB and Allende's influences don't live on because they are iconic gatekeepers of everything political and sketchy, they live on because THEY ARE STILL HEAVILY INVOLVED IN UF POLITICS.<BR/><BR/>That theory is like the episode of Scooby-Doo where they create an elaborate narrative about a ghost haunting the halls of some mansion, and Shaggy and Scooby get all freaked out while they're tripping in the mystery machine, and then, OOOPS, it was just a creepy old groundskeeper with a flashlight and some netting.<BR/><BR/>A tipsy SigEp even told me that JCB worked to get his little brother elected President of the fraternity - AFTER LEAVING FOR LAW SCHOOL. These people are control freaks who have been deeply corrupted by the mere scent of power. They will never let go. Seeing as JCB is probably 23, and Adler went on til he was 28...you get the picture.<BR/><BR/>The sooner you realize this, Christian, the sooner you will start backing credibly organized campaigns built around strategies to challenge these modern Boss Tweeds. We may not appear to embrace absolutely INDIE values, but we must make sacrifices to succeed.<BR/><BR/>Your delusions of grandeur - fueled by a radical political ideology and the quaint nostalgia of your "me against the world" college days - are doing more harm than good. You verbally assault young women and harass the administrators of our school in creatine-fueled rants. <BR/><BR/>This does not help the Orange and Blue cause. You don't understand anything that goes on down here. Your informants are often drunk, surrounded by giggling peers as they rattle off emails to send you "confidential information." We are above you and the disgusting, anti-Semite ideology you spew. Good riddance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-62777409113515544972009-01-13T22:09:00.000-05:002009-01-13T22:09:00.000-05:00Ha, I ripped the audio before it was taken down. S...Ha, I ripped the audio before it was taken down. Sweet dreams boyz.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-83153237656426063852009-01-13T20:00:00.000-05:002009-01-13T20:00:00.000-05:007:56 here, the audio is still up, but the link is ...7:56 here, the audio is still up, but the link is wrong. Follow the link and then search for "orange and blue party," it's the third result under double meeting I believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-51212055309129606052009-01-13T18:46:00.000-05:002009-01-13T18:46:00.000-05:00Fear pulled the audio. I think Mitchell Tannenbaum...Fear pulled the audio. I think Mitchell Tannenbaum is one hell of a good person and has leadership written all over, but he needs to stand up for himself and/or not slam (even politely) others that do in his place.<BR/><BR/>I want to see Mitchell step it up.Christian Duquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06442591895926766002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-80749626614594060632009-01-13T16:31:00.000-05:002009-01-13T16:31:00.000-05:008:16, threats of lawsuits don't scare me, espe...8:16, threats of lawsuits don't scare me, especially not for telling the truth.<BR/><BR/>Christian, the level of pure childishness on this blog is pretty ridiculous. I took a few buddies to an O&B meeting last night, and they thought "these are the guys who represented us?"<BR/><BR/>It's going to be an interesting semester.Justin Wootenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602641223909456499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-56722122090624615392009-01-13T11:36:00.000-05:002009-01-13T11:36:00.000-05:00Why has the audio been withdrawn?Why has the audio been withdrawn?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-5568695749209986572009-01-13T09:12:00.000-05:002009-01-13T09:12:00.000-05:00School yard rhetoric vs. an official line of quest...School yard rhetoric vs. an official line of questioning at the executive committee election level? <BR/><BR/>Yea, they're so alike, I'm just utterly disappointed in myself and am filling up my bathtub and revving up my hair dryer. It's all over.Christian Duquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06442591895926766002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-66249592794317587942009-01-13T08:21:00.000-05:002009-01-13T08:21:00.000-05:00Christian Duque. What is more like McCarthy?"...Christian Duque. What is more like McCarthy?<BR/><BR/>"We have evidence that Joe did something very bad and will release it in a month but spend the month talking about how very very bad the evidence is"<BR/><BR/>vs <BR/><BR/>Questioning Tannenbaum when he ran for MAL with O&B even though he had spent weeks talking about running his third party (the technoprogressivs). Parties have ever reason to be wary of suspected plants or people who openly admit to planning to run a third party the next cycle.<BR/><BR/>You agree? I thought so. You may want to wipe the Dictor off your chin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-10415085605435365272009-01-13T08:17:00.000-05:002009-01-13T08:17:00.000-05:00(Per Mr. Tannenbaum)This is the second time you've...(Per Mr. Tannenbaum)This is the second time you've given me material and the second time you've given me a thumbs down on my reaction(s). <BR/><BR/>I feel there's no way I, or anyone else, could 'properly' represent your views in a blog, or any forum-like thread online.<BR/><BR/>I appreciate any and all submissions from my readers, however, I don't readily jump at these offers primarily for this very reason - miscommunication.<BR/><BR/>Per Sen. Gray and the two others. I felt that their line of questioning was contemptuous, I felt like they were harassing Mr. Tannenbaum and it's unfortunate that he's willing to allow himself to be the victim of what largely sounded like McCarthy-era blacklist trials and then indirectly condemn me for being rightfully outraged at the level of unprofessionalism carried out by one faction of an Independent political party at UF against a smaller faction of an Independent political party at UF.<BR/><BR/>I'm very disappointed in Mr. Tannenbaum and his caving in under pressure - especially since he's unable to even let others do the standing up for himself. The other day we spoke on the phone for two hours and at the end of that conversation, I felt as if I had learned nothing insofar as where Mr. Tannenbaum actually stood on a single issue. I'm not knockiing ambiguity, I mean if it works for the 4th Amendment, it just might work for Mitchell - but I'm done trying to figure him out.<BR/><BR/>I think Mitchell releasing and commenting on his own material sounds ideal. Will we ever see such work? I, personally, doubt it. However, I would also love to be proven wrong on this issue.<BR/><BR/>Once again, The Officials have let me down. I have no issue with this being the last election/era of SG that will be covered on TheRadikal. 2008 was the year to move on, perhaps now it will be 2010 - as I have plenty of material to keep me going another 11 months.<BR/><BR/>In all candor, the Progs' days are numbered. Both their numbers and their naivety will surely play against them in the future, but in a perfect world, they would take the Indie movement to the next level - as opposed to retarding it back to the stone age.<BR/><BR/>Having legacies in a GDI party is as ridiculous, as not enjoying the journalistic quality and excellence and fuckin WONDERS of this blog you're reading today.Christian Duquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06442591895926766002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-52793645283237928372009-01-13T08:16:00.000-05:002009-01-13T08:16:00.000-05:00Justin Wooten: You are either a pathological liar ...Justin Wooten: You are either a pathological liar or horribly misinformed. We all know Ben Dictor's game and he is beginning to tread on very thin ice. You've done well to nearly overdose on innuendo and qualifiers, but if you say something that is untrue that in anyway has the potential to damage any of our futures, well, it really is lawsuit time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-9111745172440159672009-01-13T06:23:00.000-05:002009-01-13T06:23:00.000-05:00I could name names, as well as you probably could....I could name names, as well as you probably could. I'm guessing everyone in O&B knows the truth by now, though some are still pretending to not know about it, I guess for the sake of the Gator Party kids who read this blog as well. In fact, some of you are begging right now for us not to go forward with it because of potential lawsuits/criminal charges against said individual(s).<BR/><BR/>But I think I'll wait and consult with Toto before doing anything so drastic...Justin Wootenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602641223909456499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-50737487510913617252009-01-13T06:15:00.000-05:002009-01-13T06:15:00.000-05:00I'm 7:56, I'm not Schneider. Ordinary students can...I'm 7:56, I'm not Schneider. Ordinary students can find this blog too, you guys didn't make that too difficult (not that that was ever the point).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-78869948184339809882009-01-13T06:06:00.000-05:002009-01-13T06:06:00.000-05:00It is simply a lie that Dictor ever said anything ...It is simply a lie that Dictor ever said anything about the email scandal having anything to do with Trimboli. We know who was involved, and so do many of you.Justin Wootenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602641223909456499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-17726934042546939742009-01-13T04:19:00.000-05:002009-01-13T04:19:00.000-05:00El Duque: if you had been a party to the voluminou...El Duque: if you had been a party to the voluminous phone conversations of this past weekend, you would be whistling an entirely different tune. It is Ben Dictor and his supporters who are placing a select few O&Bers on trial, at the expense of the entire party and the movement.<BR/><BR/>As you are a blogger, I respect your penchant for sensational stories and motivating articles, but you have a journalistic duty (if you consider yourself a journalist who espouses integrity) to report the <B>whole</B> story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-74312080778611648192009-01-13T01:32:00.000-05:002009-01-13T01:32:00.000-05:00@everyone at the meeting: I took some flak today ...@everyone at the meeting: I took some flak today over posting this audio, and I am entirely sympathetic to those who did not know they were being recorded. I apologize for not announcing this; you have my word that I will not make this mistake again.<BR/><BR/>@UF Students: On the matter of posting audio of our meetings: I no longer feel it's appropriate to release audio using The Radikal. I am very happy that there are commentators such as Christian who react to the content, but it's unfair to everyone in the meetings that they should expect to be openly criticized on the initial release of the audio. The solution, as I see it, is not to criticize Christian's views, but rather to voice my own views and you can voice yours as well.<BR/><BR/>I myself feel unfairly represented. I'm not surprised or angered Christian would use that quote, but it really doesn't represent my views. I was happy to use my time to tell the people about the current problems in the Orange and Blue Party. I see the current organizational structure as a hinderance to the appreciation of our fellow students and also our ability to work together.<BR/><BR/>All students who empower themselves and the student body should be recognized as part of our students' movement.<BR/><BR/><BR/>@Christian: Thank you for your perspectives, but this is not what I expected. I will take this as a life lesson that my quotes may be taken out of context and posted online. In the future, I intend to stay on message in our discussions and to choose my words wisely. I will also record our conversations so that I can provide the full context.<BR/><BR/>In the future, I will be releasing media using another web site to encourage more students to post reactions. I will write an article to introduce that site soon; I hope it will be syndicated here as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-18223128953873068462009-01-13T00:32:00.000-05:002009-01-13T00:32:00.000-05:007:56 PM is Dave Schneider and I claim my five poun...7:56 PM is Dave Schneider and I claim my five pounds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-18587308646264452802009-01-13T00:09:00.000-05:002009-01-13T00:09:00.000-05:00Justin & Toto need to figure out what they'...Justin & Toto need to figure out what they're doing befote they come on here and utter nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-26076797749450342082009-01-13T00:05:00.000-05:002009-01-13T00:05:00.000-05:00LOL I was somewhat optimistic that you would retur...LOL I was somewhat optimistic that you would return to reason after dictor and co. essentially went back on every promise they made and started up this third party, but instead you decided to continue to buy into their bullshit, everything in that post was sheer bullshit. Get off your knees and redeem yourself, dictor and simmons have betrayed us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-14310289034770904242009-01-12T20:30:00.000-05:002009-01-12T20:30:00.000-05:00no audiono audioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-58915651346206713332009-01-12T19:56:00.000-05:002009-01-12T19:56:00.000-05:00I've voted for O&B for the last two semest...I've voted for O&B for the last two semesters. Having listened to the audio for the past couple of meetings, especially the endless railing of Tannenbaum this time and the ridiculous yelling that was directed at Dictor at the meeting before break, I've really lost faith in the people involved in this party, especially Miorelli, who, frankly, comes off as a complete ass. <BR/><BR/>And honestly, even I saw Tannenbaum campaigning -- if the O&B members missed it, they either weren't paying attention, or they were feigning idiocy just like the Gator Party does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14998306.post-70236413003132181952009-01-12T17:50:00.000-05:002009-01-12T17:50:00.000-05:00Did Justin Wooten forget to post anonymously or do...Did Justin Wooten forget to post anonymously or does he really want his name attached to this lie about Dictor's assertions against Joe.<BR/><BR/>Ben Dictor claims he overheard Josh telling Alden and Donte that the "Green means go" emails came from a gator person who logged onto their email account on the O&B computer. An O&B senator/agent had a keylogger installed and captured the password. Dictor has yet to explain who did this. Then apparently O&B senators/agents/Joe (or maybe the version of this story of Joe has been rewritten to never include Joe, how very Stalin of Wooten and Dictor) secretly mailed both the Alligator and Sam copies of the offending emails.<BR/><BR/>Please do name names Justin, we are breathlessly awaiting the next chapter. I think your conspiracy would have been much more plausible if it was a product of stolen emails after a one night stand gone bad or if the O&B geeks trespassed into Theta Chi and hacked Goldbergers' computer.<BR/><BR/>Either way, when it comes to a good trashy fiction read, you guys need to make it remotely plausible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com